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These are the brands of the product.

In the database, this field is called brands.

See issues related to brands.

Q&A

Product has more than a single brands.
- Product is part of a bigger brand or group.
  - For example, Actimel is sold by Danone.
  - For example, By Sainsbury's is sold by Sainsbury's.
  - Solution: make Actimel a child of Danone in this example.
- Synonyms. Product is sold with 2 brands, each for different language/countries.
  - For example, both Nature Valley and Val Nature can be written on the same product, but not always.
  - Solution: make Val Nature a child of Nature Valley in this example because Nature Valleyis the original U.S. brand (reference).
  - For example, No Name and Sans nom can be written on the same product, but not always.
  - Solution: make No Name , No Name Sans nom and Sans nom three separate children of Generic brand in this example because they are all lines of Generic brandwhich is a Canadian brand (reference). Or, the three of them as synonyms of each others and child of Generic brand.
  - For example, Coop, in Switzerland, can add up to three brands on a product: Betty Bossi, Karma and Coop. They justify it: "We offer a wide range of own-label brands and brand worlds." (source)
  - Solution:
  - For example, Lipton belongs to Unilever but this product is distributed by Pepsico . Lipton used to belong to Unilever, and now belong to CVC Capital Partners. Lipton's ready to drink beverages belongs to both Unilever and PepsiCo (who is distributor).
  - Solution:
  - For example, The Laughing Cow and La vache qui rit.
  - Solution: they both belong to the same parent (Bel Group)
  - For example, Miko/wall's ice creams, called Frigo in Spain but Bresler in Chile and Bolivia.
  - Solution: make the taxonomy country specific instead of language specific?
  - For example, The Coca-Cola Company sells Fanta in Thailand under Fanta and แฟนต้า names.
  - For example, Danone sells mineral water in Morroco under both عين سايس and aïn Saïss names.
  - For examples, Japanese/English (like 味の素/Ajinomoto) or Chinese/English (乐虎/Hi-Tiger)
  - Solution 1 (preferred): Synonyms th: แฟนต้า, fanta (+) they are at the same level of hierarchy (-) only first synonym will be visible for users, have to opt for the most appropriate one (local language maybe?)
  - Solution 2: different children for the same parent. Let's say we have parent "Coca Cola company", then we would have something like xx: coca-cola company
    <xx: coca-cola company xx: fanta th: fanta
    <xx: coca-cola company xx: แฟนต้า th: แฟนต้า (+) Both should be visible for users (-) we have two different entries for the "same" brand (also by changing the website URL th.openfoodfacts -> world.openfoodfacts, we could see different names... Maybe )
- Also synonyms. Product brand has changed over time.
  - Solution: use synonyms in the taxonomy.
- One brand is owned by two companies.
  - For example, Aldi Nord and Aldi Süd use the name Aldi but they operate in different areas (between countries, and inside Germany itself)
  - Solution: make Aldi Nord and Aldi Süd children of Aldi. In general, people will input Aldi only. However, if someone put Aldi Nord, it should include its parent, Aldi automatically.
- The name of the brand is different from the name of the shop of these brand.
  - For example Aldi Nord and Aldi Süd brand, use the international (now unified) brand Aldi (https://aldi.com/), which is also the common used shop name for both Aldi brands in Germany. So the Aldi Nord and Aldi Süd brand, which are only used as shop indication brands on products (at least in Germany), have to resolved to the common shop name Aldi instead of Aldi Nord or Aldi Süd.
- One brand is distributed/produced locally by another brand
  - For example, the licensing of beer brands: the same brand may be exploited under a licensing agreement by different companies depending on the country (and this can change with time). My understanding is that it is because for beer, it is a lot cheaper to produce locally than to transport internationally. In the UK San Miguel would probably be under Carlsberg Marstons, but in Spain it would be under Mahou San Miguel and in the Philippine or Hong Kong under the (original) San Miguel Brewery.
  - For example, Asahi, manufactured for the European market by its local subsidiaries (Peroni in Italy, for instance) but used to be licensed to Carlsberg Marstons or AB Inbev depending on the country. Some Asahi brands are still licensed to AB InBev at least for some European markets. It used to be very opaque, but recent events made that obvious.
  - Solution:
Same name shared by different brands.
- For example, San Miguel is a beer in Spain [cervezas san miguel], food in Mexico [grupo agroindustrial san miguel], honey in Spain/France [Ramros Trading Company])
- For example, Star is starfinefood in the U.S., Star S.p.A. in Italy, stardrinks in the United Arab Emirates, star from Ghadawat Indian airlines company,
- For example, Walkers represents 3 different brands (1, 2 and 3)
- For example, Dove is either cosmetic (from Unilever) or chocolates brand (from Mars)
- Solution: having country specific brands would help as well as differencing Cervezas San Miguel and San Miguel. In long term we could have some set of rules like if it is San Miguel and category is Beers, then rename Cerezas San Miguel. Same for food vs cosmetic.
- For example, Cornetto is a sub-brand of both Frigo and Miko (see previous discussion)
- Solution: make Cornetto child of both brands.
Products without brands written.
- For example No brand. I used the company name of the packager as brand to make search preview more useful.
Brand spelling and formatting.
- Is it Coop, coop, COOP, CO OP?
- Solution: in taxonomy, there are no difference between lower and upper case, there are no difference between space and hyphen. We can make coop a synonym of co op.
- Brands containing an apostrophe or quotes are often missing this one.
  - For examples for apostrophes, Lay's vs Lays, Kellogg's vs Kelloggs, Sar'Ocean.
  - For example for quotes,The Muffin "Mam" Inc
  - Solution: use synonyms in the taxonomy.
- Brands with special characters like &
  - For example for &, M&M's
  - Solution: special characters should be recognized. Eventually, use synonyms in the taxonomy.
- Brands with commas
  - For example for commaWilliams, West & Witt's Products
  - Solution: brand should be written without the comma. it is not possible to use commas in the tags (if you write comma it will start a new tag, this example will result in two tags: Williams and West & Witt's Products or use ";" as separator as OpenStreetMap.
- Brand with only numbers
  - For examples, 1664, 1883 or 365.

company structure - do we want to list (and research) all the relationships between owners, marketing companies, etc. I would suggest that we do NOT and limit ourselves to the brands and brand owner (and maybe the production company);
- comment: overkill - it is very tempting to add al kinds details for owners, etc. The actual owners of the product, brand, etc, do not seem useful to the consumer. We just should provide links to third parties for this kind information. I.e. wikipedia, wikidata,, opencorporates, ipo europe, ...
- Decision:
parent brand - when should the parent brand be added? Only if the parent brand is available on the front of the packaging, or also when it is shown on the back of the packaging, or when we can find out the legal final parent owner of a brand? This choice might have an implication for how we structure the data.
- comment @benbenben: at least having sub-brands/lines of a brand would be beneficial - for quality checks as well as monitoring number of products from the same distributor - even if the brand is not written on the package.
  - For example, S-budget is a child of Spar.
  - For example, Pilos is a child of Lidl.
- Decision:
EAN manufacturer codes - is there an open database which we could use?
country code vs language code.
- comment @benbenben: To tackle country specific brands (https://github.com/openfoodfacts/openfoodfacts-server/issues/2954), I would suggest to replace <language:> by <country:>. Because some names can differ per country instead of per languages (we can take the example of Miko/wall's ice creams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall%27s_(ice_cream)) that are called Frigo in Spain but Bresler in Chile and Bolivia). (+) that would make easier to detect if a product is in a wrong country based on the brand taxonomy (-) not totally sure that we can do that technically, can we? (-) it adds complexity because all other taxonomies have language code and only the brand taxonomy would have the country code (+-) there may be some brands that divide a country in two (like Aldi), but not sure that it is an problem.

Observations summary

Summarizing the observations note above, we see the following brands:

1 universal brand, exact same name used in all countries and languages. e.g. "Nutella"
2 brand that is translated in different languages or scripts "The Laughing Cow", "La vache qui rit" (example) EDIT they both belong to the same parent (Bel Group)
3 brands that have the same name, but used in different languages
4 brands that have the same name, but used in different countries
5 brands that have the same name, and used in the same country. (e.g. "Ferrero" in Italy: there's also a pasta brand. EDIT pasta brand in Italy named Industria-alimentare-ferraro).
6 brands in non-latin scripts, which can not be latinised
7 parent brands are sometimes shown on packaging

Use cases (UC below)

The brands taxonomy has multiple applications within Open Food Facts. These are:

1 Display the brands of a product, in the language requested by the user;
2 Have a way to list all products of a brand;
3 Let users enter brands for a product, as they appear on the package (as free text);
4 Let the user select the correct brand from a list of existing brands. If the same brand text occurs multiple times, the user must be able to select the applicable one;
5 Suggests a brand to the user based on the manufacturer part of the barcode and other information;
6 Infer category and labels from brand - some brands are only used for specific products. This implies that the product category and possible labels can be implies (suggested);
7 Infer brand from manufacturer code within the barcode;
8 Barcode/Brand quality check - if the manufacturer part of the barcode does not match the specified brand, there is an error in either of them;

Design considerations

The observations and use cases lead to several design considerations:

Unique brand key - as the same brand (string) can exist in multiple geographic areas or within the same geographic area, there must be a way to uniquely distinguish between the various brands. Otherwise, a user can not enter the correct brand (UC1), nor can we list all brands (UC2);
Uses selectable brand - there must be a brand name in the same language/script of the package. If that name occurs multiple times in the taxonomy, it must be specified by product category, country sold, etc in order to make it unique. For instance, the label Taste occurs in France and Argentina, but is used for different categories. So the user should have the choice Taste (category 1 - France) and Taste (category 2 - Argentina). Maybe this can be mixed with the key. (UC4). EDIT: there are no Taste brands neither in France not in Argentina.
Language/script specific brands - a way to code a single brand in multiple scripts and/or languages, for example in Chinese, Arabic and English (UC1)
Language independent brand - a way to encode a brand that is valid for multiple languages (UC1);

Brands and Robotoff (AI)

Preventing OFF AI to detect some false brands: see brand_taxonomy_blacklist.txt.

Help to collect brands

The AI of Open Food Facts, called Robotoff, is trying to identify brands. The annotations made by Robotoff are provided to users, asking them to answer to a simple question. There are also used by Hunger Game. Everyone can use Hunger Game, but be careful to the issues mentioned in this current page.

on 2020-10-29, there were 43200 annotations and 22748 resting
on 2020-11-17, there were 46911 annotations and 22720 resting

Know challenges

Some brand names are related to common name, expressions or ingredients producing false positive with AI tool. For examples:

Racines (means "roots" in French)
La Truffe (means "the truffle" in French)
Pure Protein
Best Choice is a brand, not a tagline
Great Value also
The Belgian, often entered Belgian; it produces many false positive from our AI.

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 *** For example, <code>Aldi Nord</code> and <code>Aldi Süd</code> use the name <code>Aldi</code> but they operate in different areas (between countries, and inside Germany itself)
 *** <u>'''Solution'''</u>: make <code>Aldi Nord</code> and <code>Aldi Süd</code> children of <code>Aldi</code>. In general, people will input <code>Aldi</code> only. However, if someone put <code>Aldi Nord</code>, it should include its parent, <code>Aldi</code> automatically.
+** The name of the brand is different from the name of the shop of these brand.
+*** For example <code>Aldi Nord</code> and <code>Aldi Süd</code> brand, use the international (now unified) brand <code>Aldi</code> (https://aldi.com/), which is also the common used shop name for both <code>Aldi</code> brands in Germany. So the <code>Aldi Nord</code> and <code>Aldi Süd</code> brand, which are only used as shop indication brands on products (at least in Germany), have to resolved to the common shop name <code>Aldi</code> instead of <code>Aldi Nord</code> or <code>Aldi Süd</code>.
 ** One brand is distributed/produced locally by another brand
 *** For [https://www.diffordsguide.com/beer-wine-spirits/2003/san-miguel-cerveza-uk-brewed example], the licensing of beer brands: the same brand may be exploited under a licensing agreement by different companies depending on the country (and this can change with time). My understanding is that it is because for beer, it is a lot cheaper to produce locally than to transport internationally. In the UK San Miguel would probably be under Carlsberg Marstons, but in Spain it would be under Mahou San Miguel and in the Philippine or Hong Kong under the (original) San Miguel Brewery.
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 ** Brands with commas
 *** For [https://world.openfoodfacts.org/brand/williams-west-witt-s-prods example] for comma<code>Williams, West & Witt's Products</code>
-***<u>'''Solution'''</u>: brand should be written without the comma. it is not possible to use commas in the tags (if you write comma it will start a new tag, this example will result in two tags: <code>Williams</code> and <code>West & Witt's Products</code>
+***<u>'''Solution'''</u>: brand should be written without the comma. it is not possible to use commas in the tags (if you write comma it will start a new tag, this example will result in two tags: <code>Williams</code> and <code>West & Witt's Products</code> or use ";" as separator as OpenStreetMap.
 ** Brand with only numbers
 *** For examples, <code>1664</code>, <code>1883</code> or <code>365</code>.